Oh my sweet lovelies! These last (nearly) four weeks have been absolute torture as my beloved puggo has been incredibly ill. I’ve had him since he was a teeny puglet and he’s nearing his 12th birthday in two months. He’s always been stout and healthy, with only ear infections and a dry eye to worry over. This was something different all together, I won’t get into the gory details, but at a certain point my food obsessed pug stopped eating and I panicked. It took 3 weeks, 4 veterinarians (2 specialists), lots and lots of tests and several thousand dollars (get pet insurance now so you don’t have this happen to you) but my baby is going to be okay. He has a terribly severe case of irritable bowel disease, he’ll likely be on meds to manage it for the rest of his life. Facing this alone has been absolutely terrifying and exhausting. Doing all I could to keep him comfortable while the experts figured out what was going on was absolutely heart wrenching. When he was admitted to the ICU last Thursday as his little system went into shock, I was home just beside myself not knowing what to do without him home with me even for one night. Just two days later he was back to giving me the full pug attitude and trying to get into the garbage can like he used to. Ha!
I came so close to losing him that I am still sort of in shock. What is an appropriate gift for a veterinarian??? I have a few I need to send. The way two vets specifically handled this tricky situation was beyond impressive. I mean, one really went the extra mile to get a specialist involved even though they are all booked through October. I know for a fact that one vet spent over an hour on hold with two different places at least and even worked late to make it happen for us. They were all so kind and patient with me and my questions. I know they deal with such difficult situations only to have to put the animal down, but not my babyman. I had to keep saying that I wasn’t concerned about the money aspect of it, I just wanted him to be okay. I could hear the relief in their voices every time. And while money actually is a major concern and this ordeal has set me back financially (and can I just say fuck credit scores and how they are measured!), I cannot imagine going through this without the small safety net that I do have now. It is an impossible position to be in, but I know I made the right decisions for me and puggo.
I am beyond grateful to all who assisted in his care, my friends and loved ones for their prayers, woo, and moral support. After having just gone through my own health crisis for so many months and to finally be done with it, having this come up for my lil’ guy nearly wrecked me completely. Steroids and antibiotics are amazing medicines, when used properly. I mean, I had to watch my sweet muffin wither away in pain for days on end until we finally got the answers needed to start some kind of treatment. When he had his follow up yesterday the dogtor couldn’t believe how well and how different he looked! I have no doubt that his usual slight chonk-ness helped in his healing and handling of this.
I am taking the last week of October off work for “vacation”. While I was originally going to take a road trip up north to bask in the magic of the redwoods, now we will simply be home and trying to get as much fucking sleep as possible! I am so sleep deprived I am waking up most days with broken capillaries around my eyes, despite my commitment to my skincare routine. Ha! Seriously, the sleep deprivation is brutal, but worth the temporary craziness to have a better and longer life with my favorite person (my dog is a person, I will fight you). May the rest of this awful year be without upset or loss, because I am not sure how much more I can handle. Hopefully my 18 year old car can hold on another two years while I recover financially. The loan rates right now are terrible! I’m glad I got the small one I did in March or I would have been absolutely screwed.
2022 is shaping up to be exciting in a positive way at least. My employer is moving offices again and it is a project I have been excited to take on for awhile now. This will be my third big office move and the planning and design parts are my favorite! It reminds me that I am capable of so much more than a “front desk” person, as many see me as. I’m an office manager by title, but I wear a few hats and am coming up on four years in my current role, I love it.
Things are changing, and I am ready for all the goodness! Are you?!
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Image Text: Weight stigma and diet culture can fool fat people
into believing that we owe explanations and justifications for our body size, food choices, and health
to anyone who thinks they deserve them. We don’t.
Weight stigma and diet culture work hard to to make fat people believe that we deserve to be treated poorly and that, at the very least, we owe explanations and justifications for our body size, food choices, and health to anyone who thinks they deserve them.
The truth is that commenting on someone’s food choices, body size or health without invitation is completely inappropriate. And we are under no obligation to act like it’s not.
We get to respond to this in whatever way we want. We can choose to try to educate (though it’s helpful to remember that we can’t control whether or not they take advantage of our generosity by learning.) We can react in ways that are snarky, or angry, or even “rude.” We can laugh in their faces and walk away.
No matter how we react (and sometimes it’s not in our control in a given situation,) the important thing to remember is that our bodies aren’t the problem – their inappropriate behavior is.
Between in-person and online family gatherings, work parties, New Years bashes, New Years Resolution, and a ton of diet ads… the holiday season can be a perfect storm of fatphobia. Plus this year all the talk of COVID-related body changes adds another layer of nonsense All that diet culture can really get you down. In this workshop we’ll talk about tips, tricks, and techniques to help us deal and have a happy holiday season on our own terms – whether we celebrate any holidays or not.
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When I got the invitation to be a guest on the Fad Camp podcast , which deals with diet culture through comedy, I couldn’t agree to be a guest fast enough. As the cherry on top of this fabulous fat cake, several years ago I got a chance to visit Ireland and I fell in love with the place. Since I’m not traveling right now for COVID reasons, that made it an extra treat to sit down with the fabulous Grace – if I can’t be in Ireland, at least she can!
Our episode covers topics from fat liberation in general, to the problem with actors in fat suits, to fat athletes and the bullshit of the good fatty/bad fatty dichotomy, and more.
Between in-person and online family gatherings, work parties, New Years bashes, New Years Resolution, and a ton of diet ads… the holiday season can be a perfect storm of fatphobia. Plus this year all the talk of COVID-related body changes adds another layer of nonsense All that diet culture can really get you down. In this workshop we’ll talk about tips, tricks, and techniques to help us deal and have a happy holiday season on our own terms – whether we celebrate any holidays or not.
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Image Text: What would fat people’s health outcomes look like if we weren’t constantly subjected to whatever “interventions” the diet industry thought would make them money Let’s find out.
Gary Taubes recently wrote a piece called “How a ‘fatally, tragically flawed’ paradigm has derailed the science of ob*sity” in which he congratulated himself for debunking bad science around fatness while… wait for it…promoting bad science around fatness.
Before I get too far into this I want to be clear that, while I think it’s important to talk about the science because it’s (mis)used to harm and abuse fat people, that should never detract from the fact that it’s fine to be fat no matter what, that adding healthism to fatphobia does not make either ok or justifiable, and that fat people have the right to live without shame, stigma, bullying or oppression no matter why we are fat, no matter what the “health impacts” might be, and whether or not we could, or even want to, become thin. That includes the rights to equal accommodation, including in healthcare.
So, let’s talk about this article. He starts out by saying, correctly, that fatness is not just about a “calories in, calories out” equation. (I wrote a blog post about this called The Calories In/Out Myth in 2011, which cited the work of just some of the people who have been talking about this since long before that, but I guess…welcome to the party Gary?)
Gary is correct that the calories in/out paradigm is deeply flawed (and is still being widely used, including the absurd medical “diagnosis” of fat people as “ob*se due to excess calories” by doctors who have never even asked about calorie consumption. This is driven by weight stigma which is fundamentally linked to racism and anti-Blackness (resources around this include Sabrina Strings Fearing the Black Body: The Racial Origins of Fatphobia and Da’Shaun Harrisons Belly of the Beast: The Politics of Anti-Fatness as Anti-Blackness)
The tragic flaw comes in the next leap of logic, in which Gary suggests that while fatness isn’t caused by a calories in/calories out equation, it’s still about what fat people eat, being fat is still something that should be pathologized and medicalized, and we should still push for the eradication of fat people. Let’s take a look
[Note, the quotations include harmful language, including terms that were created to pathologize and medicalize fat bodies, and may be triggering – you can skip them and still get main points of this piece]
I might have embraced this thinking as well if the prevalence of ob*sity had not risen relentlessly for the past half century; if ob*sity — along with type 2 diabetes, its partner in pathology — had not become the dominant non-Covid health crisis of our time. But I can’t…
Regular readers will know that I am an alliteration super stan, so I want to give him at least some credit for for “partner in pathology.” But I can’t.. because this concept is so harmful and wrong. The article does a decent job of debunking the “calories in/calories out argument” (but since people have been doing that for literally decades, including in Fat Activist and Health at Every Size circles, I can’t give him much credit for that either) Blaming fatness and calling it a health crisis without examining (or even mentioning) the impacts of weight stigma, weight cycling, and healthcare inequalities on the wellbeing of fat people is bad science that drives more weight stigma, weight cycling, and healthcare inequalities.
So Gary is late to the party on calories in/calories out, but at least he is here, right? I mean at least he’s being clear that being fat isn’t something to blame on what fat people eat…
People don’t get fat because they eat too much, consuming more calories than they expend, but because the carbohydrates in their diets — both the quantity of carbohydrates and their quality — establish a hormonal milieu that fosters the accumulation of excess fat…
Oh. Never mind. He’s just pitching another “it’s what they eat” claim. How can this account for the fact that people can eat the same things and be vastly different weights, and that people can eat different things and be the same weight? Gary’s has an answer there to…sort of…
Since not everyone is ob*se or overw*ight, some people clearly do balance their intake to their expenditure even in an environment where food is everywhere. Shouldn’t a viable hypothesis of ob*sity be able to explain why some people remain lean and others don’t without implicitly or even explicitly blaming character?
This problem is solved by simply defining ob*sity as what it clearly is: a disorder of excessive fat accumulation.
I had to take a minute to bang my head on my desk, but I’m back. If you’re touting a paradigm that pathologizes fat bodies, I can see how it’s convenient for you if we all just accept that fat bodies can be pathologized because they are fat, but, I can’t back you on it for reasons I’m about to discuss, as well as the fact that people with the same weight/amount of fat have vastly different health statuses.
And here’s where this all goes, arguably, the most (tragically) wrong.
The undeniable evidence is the enormous increase in the prevalence of ob*sity worldwide. In the U.S., 12% of Americans lived with ob*sity 60 years ago; more than 40% do today. Something has changed in the environment — in diets or lifestyles — to trigger such a dramatic rise in the prevalence of ob*sity. But is it nature or nurture that the environment triggers, behavior or physiology, minds or bodies?
In this paragraph he is almost there, but then he takes that left turn at weight stigma. In order to rush to his preferred way to pathologize fat people, Gary blows right by the possible answers to his own question. What has changed?
Well, for one thing, in 1998 (driven by the weight loss industry) the definition of “ob*sity” was lowered, impacting the weight classification of tens of millions of people. I wrote about that here and I’m just one of many, many people who have pointed this out. If you are talking about the so-called increase in fatness without mentioning that, I feel like it calls your methods and intentions into some serious question.
The other thing that has changed is the advent of the weight loss industry (or, more correctly, the weight cycling industry, but we’ll get to that.). Intentional weight loss products and programs started to become commercially popular in the 1930’s, became even more popular post WWII, and have steadily grown since. The industry has grown to $71 BILLION dollars a year (up from $20 billion dollars in 2012 alone.)
Why is this important? Because intentional weight loss attempts (whether we’re calling them diets, lifestyle changes, health plans, or something else) end up in weight regain about 95% of the time, and up to two-thirds of those people gain back more than they lost. And the advice those people are given is…try again! (The industry has brilliantly taken credit for the first part of the biological response (weight loss) and blamed their clients – and convinced their clients and everyone else – to blame themselves for the second part of the biological response, which is the only way that they could have seen such exponential growth with a product that fails almost all the time and has the opposite of the intended effect the majority of the time.)
Put plainly, tens of millions of people were made fatter by definition literally overnight in 1998, and intentional weight loss attempts predict weight gain, and they have been prescribed to more and more people, at younger and younger ages, since the 1930’s (and those are just two of the possible reasons that people might be a bit bigger in the past – there’s also life changing/saving medications that cause weight gain and a myriad of other reasons.) But Gary doesn’t think that’s worth mentioning in his discussion of the possible reasons that people are fatter. Again, there is nothing wrong with being or becoming fat(ter), but there is something deeply wrong with not just putting such a focus on why people are the size they are, but then also ignoring the fact that the thing that anyone bigger than the (racist, diet-industry-driven) standard of “normal weight” is told to do most often results in weight gain and health issues, which we’ll talk about momentarily.
In truth we have no idea what people’s sizes or health statuses would be if we didn’t try to manipulate fat people’s bodies with weight loss attempts, often from childhood, and we will never get to find out if people remain myopically focused on eradicating fat people instead of supporting our health in the bodies we have.
So, the most common outcome of intentional weight loss attempts is weight regain. And the most common advice to those who experience this is to try intentional weight loss again (and again, and again.) This results in weight cycling (aka yo-yo dieting) and weight cycling, Gary conveniently leaves out of his article, may also be the driver of the health issues that he is so quick to assign to fatness.
Bacon and Aprhamor covered this (and much more) in their paper “Weight Science – The Evidence For A Paradigm Shift”
Consider weight cycling as an example. Attempts to lose weight typically result in weight cycling, and such attempts are more common among ob*se individuals [62]. Weight cycling results in increased inflammation, which in turn is known to increase risk for many ob*sity-associated diseases [63]. Other potential mechanisms by which weight cycling contributes to morbidity include hypertension, insulin resistance and dyslipidemia [64]. Research also indicates that weight fluctuation is associated with poorer cardiovascular outcomes and increased mortality risk [64–68]. Weight cycling can account for all of the excess mortality associated with obe*sity in both the Framingham Heart Study [69] and the National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey (NHANES) [70]. It may be, therefore, that the association between weight and health risk can be better attributed to weight cycling than adiposity itself [63].
Similarly, to connect fatness with diabetes without pointing out the ways that dieting has been correlated with insulin resistance and type 2 diabetes is disingenuous at best. Even though they are still coming from a flawed weight loss paradigm, even the American Diabetes Association points out that weight cycling and insulin resistance and type diabetes are linked, including that a 2017 study in The New England Journal of Medicine found that people who experience weight cycling were 78 percent more likely to develop type 2 diabetes over a period of about five years compared with those whose weight remained more constant.
Peter Muennig’s work also found a link between the stress of constant weight stigma type 2 diabetes.
What would happen if we stopped trying to eradicate fat people? What would fat people’s health outcomes look like if we weren’t constantly subjected to weight stigma, weight cycling, healthcare inequalities, and whatever “intervention” the latest person who was trying to profit from weight stigma decided to cavalierly foist upon the general population of fat people, without any evidence of long-term efficacy in either creating thinness or greater health (which are two different things.). We don’t have a clear answer to that, but we have some signs.
Studies like Matheson et. al., and Wei et. al. show that (understanding that health is not an obligation, barometer of worthiness, or entirely within our control,) behaviors are a much better predictor of future health than body size. Peter Muennig’s study found that cis women (unfortunately, as is all too common, there was no trans or nonbinary representation) who felt good about their size had less physical and mental illness than cis women who felt they were too large, regardless of their size (with the understanding that the blame isn’t on those who had internalized the weight stigma that is all around them, the problem is that the weight stigma exists)
The weight-normative approach is not improving health for the majority of individuals across the entire weight continuum. Weight is overemphasized for higher-weight individuals (i.e., assumptions are made that they are unhealthy) and underemphasized for lower- or “average-” weight individuals (i.e., assumptions are made that they are healthy). Furthermore, we know that weight loss through dieting is not sustainable over time for the vast majority of higher-weight individuals and is linked to harmful consequences. Therefore, we argue that it is unethical to continue to prescribe weight loss to patients and communities as a pathway to health, knowing the associated outcomes—weight regain (if weight is even lost) and weight cycling—are connected to further stigmatization, poor health, and well-being. The data suggest that a different approach is needed to foster physical health and well-being within our patients and communities.
Advocates of a weight-inclusive approach assert that we are acting on behalf of our patients’ and communities’ interests when we centralize health for people at all points along the weight continuum and work to eradicate weight stigma in all settings, including health care and public health. This paper has reviewed the data in support of a weight-inclusive approach to foster physical and psychological well-being. We encourage both scholars and practitioners to study and document what happens when health professionals and their target populations shift their focus to developing sustainable healthy behaviors for every body.
Whipping people up into a frenzy about an “ob*sity epidemic” is highly profitable, and can be a way to get attention, but it doesn’t actually do anything helpful or good. As I have said before, we can solve the “ob*sity epidemic” right this minute in one simple step – just set the whole concept down and move to a paradigm that respects and supports bodies of all sizes.
In this talk I’ll share realistic strategies, tools, tips, and tricks I’ve learned for dealing with weight stigma – including our own internalized body issues, and the fatphobia that the world throws at us. This talk will focus on ways that we can stop making ourselves small to satisfy our bullies and the weight stigma that drives them, and start living life large.
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This is one of the most common questions I get – the question goes – there is such a strong correlation between being higher weight and having health issues, how can you just dismiss that? Especially when so much of the research you point to is correlational in itself.
The thing is, tt’s not about just dismissing the correlational relationship between weight and health out of hand, it’s about examining the evidence around that correlation to test the strength of it.
Before I get too far into it, the relationship between correlation and causation is at the foundation of research methods (my first research methods teacher made us repeat “correlation never ever, never ever, never ever implies causation in every class!). If two things are correlated, it means that they happen at the same time. What it doesn’t mean is that one of those things causes the other. For example there is a strong correlation between cis male pattern baldness and cardiac incidents. If we assumed that baldness caused heart attacks that would be a faulty assumption. If we then assumed that making affected people grow hair would reduce cardiac incidents (creating a government sponsored “War on Baldness” blaming people for not growing hair, etc.) that would be another faulty assumption. In fact a third factor causes both the baldness, and the higher rates of cardiac incidents.
So, when we see a correlational relationship between weight and health, but without a causal mechanism, the first question we have to ask is – what is the quality of the evidence?
We have to examine the research that finds this correlation for quality, and when we do, we find it lacking in some of the most basic principles of research. For example, if fat people are tested early and often for a health condition and thin people are almost never tested unless they have advanced symptoms, it’s spurious to assume that the health condition occurs more often in fat people. In another example, since too-tight blood pressure cuffs give too-high readings, and often fat people’s blood pressure is tested using a too-tight cuff, we have to ask ourselves how accurate that correlation is.
The next question we have to ask is – could something else be causing this relationship?
So again, it’s not about simply dismissing the correlation out of hand. It’s about the reality that until we can account for the possible impacts of the research issues and confounding variables, the correlation between weight and health has to be held in serious question.
Not to mention, the fallout from the extremely questionable acceptance of the correlation of weight and health as a causal relationship (and the follow up extremely questionable assumption that weight loss is the “solution”) drives massive additional harm (looking at you Weight Loss Industry.). That’s even more significant considering that studies like Wei et. al., Matheson et. al., etc. show that (understanding that health is not an obligation, barometer of worthiness, or entirely within our control) there are plenty of ways to support the health of people of any size that have nothing to do with body size manipulation (you can find diagnosis-specific weight neutral practice guides and a resource and research bank at www.HAESHealthSheets.com)
Finally, while I think it’s worth having these discussions since so much of fat people’s treatment, including in healthcare, is driven by this, we can never lose site of the fact that fat people have the right to live without shame, stigma, bullying or oppression no matter why we are fat, no matter what the “health impacts” might be, and whether or not we could, or even want to, become thin. That includes the rights to equal accommodation, including in healthcare.
In this talk I’ll share realistic strategies, tools, tips, and tricks I’ve learned for dealing with weight stigma – including our own internalized body issues, and the fatphobia that the world throws at us. This talk will focus on ways that we can stop making ourselves small to satisfy our bullies and the weight stigma that drives them, and start living life large.
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Image Text: Excellent fat actors struggle to get good roles, so we don’t need thin actors wearing our bodies like a costume and cosplaying fat people.
In the upcoming series “”Impeachment: American Crime Story” Sarah Paulson plays Linda Tripp, wearing a fat suit. (Many of those defending this are calling it a “prosthetic” but, as Shakespeare once said, a fat suit by any other name would still be some harmful, fatphobic bullshit.)
David Oliver wrote about this in a piece for USA today in which I and several other fat activists are quoted.
When you give a quote for an article like this (in this case via email) it’s extremely common that they pull parts of it, break it up, etc. so for posterity, here is my full quote:
I’ll start by saying that I have been a fan of Sarah Paulson and I think she’s incredibly talented, I also know that there are equally talented fat actors who will never have the opportunities that Sarah Paulson has had, because there are so few roles for which they will be considered. I want a world where actors of all sizes get to play the lead, the romantic interest, the hero etc. but in the meantime, at the very least, I think that instead of having thin actors wear our bodies like a costume and cosplay fat people, fat actors should be cast in fat roles. This role should not have been offered to Sarah Paulson and, when it was, she should have said no and used her power and privilege to advocate for a fat actor to be cast.
In this talk I’ll share realistic strategies, tools, tips, and tricks I’ve learned for dealing with weight stigma – including our own internalized body issues, and the fatphobia that the world throws at us. This talk will focus on ways that we can stop making ourselves small to satisfy our bullies and the weight stigma that drives them, and start living life large.
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If you’re looking to hookup with a fat girl, you might not be sure which dating apps to try. Some of them are free, while others are paid and cost money. However, all of them can be used to help you find a fat girl. Here’s a list of dating apps that are specifically designed for fat chicks who want to hookup and make new friends in the process.
These are the apps that will help you find a fat chick, all the way down to her age, and the specific body type she wants. As with all dating apps, you need to sign up for one and create a profile. Once you are signed up, you can go through the profiles of fat girls looking for a fuck buddy and hook up with one of them.
There are other sites out there that offer the same sort of service but the point of these apps is that they are specifically tailored for fat chicks who are looking for buddies. The apps are free to use and they are easy to get started with. Here are the best fat girls dating apps you can find online today:
FuckBuddies.app
While it isn’t specifically made for finding fat chicks, this is a great site for anyone looking for casual sex. On FuckBuddies, you’ll find far more horny fat girls than any of the other big hookup apps in our experience. While you can get on the site with either your Facebook or your Instagram login, we recommend using Facebook to get started with this app as you won’t be able to search through the women’s profiles if you’re not logged in. There are many different ways to hook up on the site and the free profile area allows you to get to know other women.
One feature of the app that is really useful is that it will help you connect with the woman you like best based on the photos you add to your profile. This makes it easier to start a conversation if you like someone more than another, and if that person agrees to go out with you, you can both start a hookup quickly and easily.
If you’re looking to start a casual relationship, FuckBuddies is the best option for you. It is the perfect place to start meeting people in the area.
Adult Friend Finder
AFF is one of the most widely used adult dating apps for hookups and you can find fat chicks using it. We recommend signing up for this app using your Facebook login to get you started, but you can also use your Instagram login. You’ll find that a large number of the women who use the site are very horny and the app offers you the opportunity to meet women quickly if that’s what you’re looking for.
One thing to remember when using this app is that you can get a lot of messages if you have an account with this app. This can quickly become overwhelming if you start chatting to a lot of women. You can keep an eye on this by visiting your inbox, where you can see any messages you have received and you can also delete the messages that you don’t want. The free profile section is great for hooking up with people and you can also take part in the many other features of the app.
If you’re looking to make casual sex hookups, this is one of the best dating apps you can use today.
WooPlus
WooPlus is one of the best for meeting fat chicks looking to hookup. You can sign up for it using either your Facebook or your Instagram login. Once you have, you’ll need to create a profile and you can browse through the profiles of women on the site and if you find one that you like, you can send her a message and see if she is interested in a casual hookup.
You can then send her a message and see how interested she is in meeting up for a hookup.
When you meet a girl in person, you can take it from there. You might be able to talk about meeting up for a casual hookup or even meeting up for a serious relationship. WooPlus is a great way to find fat chicks looking for a one night stand.
Our Final Thoughts
If you’re looking to find fat chicks who are looking for friends who are also interested in casual sex, then using these apps can help you find exactly what you want and what you need. There are some fat chicks dating apps that you can’t use to find them, but these apps offer you the best chance of getting what you want and are looking for.
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